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Almost too late to EFU!

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Busy day! I just got home from seeing a co-worker of the hubs sing with his band in a bar. Writing this morning, went to see Life Of Pi (STELLAR!!) with my daughter this afternoon, took her for glasses, came home and made dinner, then dashed out the door again. It is now an hour until today becomes tomorrow, and I'm EFUing LJ. Whew!

69/222 pages revised. Killing it. Loving it. So proud of it. Can't wait for Monday to dive back in.

I put this up today on FB:
It is an unavoidable, soul-crushing, core-shifting moment when you discover you are surrounded by people you love in your day-to-day world, who love you, but have absolutely no interest in the things that interest you, or what you think about them.

This was the result of trying to have a conversation with my daughter, and realizing she was absolutely not interested in anything I was saying. It all just hit me--just about everyone in my day-to-day life, friends, family both immediate and extended, are completely uninterested in what I do. They love me! They are proud of me! They are excited for me! But they have no real interest after that.

I'm not angry, or even upset--it's just one of those epiphanies that takes you by surprise and leaves you gasping just a little. I was quickly assuaged by the fact that though my family and hometown friends really aren't interested in writing or fantasy or even reading, I do have a community that fills that space. Several, in fact. I have my Viable Paradise friends, my Virginia Beach Dollbabies, my Hadley Rille Book family, my writing group, and I have my LJ community. I have people to talk about such things with who not only share my interests, but are enthusiastic about sharing thoughts on them. And they are interested in what I do and what I think. I am blessed.

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queenoftheskies
Jan. 19th, 2013 04:40 am (UTC)
Congrats on all that awesome work!

You are very lucky to have folks to talk writing with.
bogwitch64
Jan. 20th, 2013 03:53 am (UTC)
Thank you, love. And thank you for being one of those I can talk to!
scallywag195
Jan. 19th, 2013 04:56 am (UTC)
I know what you mean about significant people in your life who aren't interested in hearing about what you do.

My husband is supportive and reads the non-fiction I write, but will not read fiction. Just not his thing.
sallymn
Jan. 19th, 2013 08:46 am (UTC)
Oh yes, I know that feeling - when I did my honours thesis (part-time, so it took two years) the Nearest and Dearest were very encouraging, utterly supportive, heartwarmingly proud... and all that without an earthly of why I would want to do anything of the sort. I was never cruel enough to ask the poor dears to read it... :)
bogwitch64
Jan. 20th, 2013 03:56 am (UTC)
My husband took such offense to my statement. I felt bad. He's VERY supportive. He reads everything I write, goes to conventions and book signings with me, he even listens to me go on about writing and editing and this author and that one. He TRIES. And I tried to explain to him that it's not he's not supportive, he simply doesn't have any real interest in any of it. He does it for ME, not because he enjoys it himself, and talking TO him about stuff isn't like talking WITH him about them.

And because he's not big on grammar, he didn't quite grasp the difference between talking TO and talking WITH--and thus my point is proven!
readthisandweep
Jan. 19th, 2013 09:32 am (UTC)
You nail it when you say: ...though my family and hometown friends really aren't interested in writing or fantasy or even reading, I do have a community that fills that space.

The point is - it isn't the friends & families job to understand the process. Their job is to be proud of the outcome. It's like being an accountant & expecting your wife to get overexcited about the intricacies of auditing. It's never going to happen.

Compartmentalise my dear! Bask in the glory of the, 'Wow! Mom wrote another book!' moments. The rest of us will get you when you're wrestling with your plot lines & edits. ;)
bogwitch64
Jan. 20th, 2013 03:58 am (UTC)
I am very grateful for my LJ friends, my writer's group, my VAB dollbabies, my VP friends, my HRB family. I am so BLESSED to have all these communities. It just comes hard when you realize the people around you all day every day haven't a real clue about what tickles your fancy. :)
readthisandweep
Jan. 20th, 2013 09:39 am (UTC)
Or, if it was matter of life & death, wouldn't know what book to buy you... That's a killer.

I do understand - it's the same for me. The blank look & the 'That's nice' smile which is a euphemism for, 'I have no idea why you are getting so excited about this.'

Essentially, writers (painters et al) are weird - to the rest of the non-creative world, we are odd. The outside world, while benignly impressed & even secretly envious, simply doesn't get it. I have rarely had an 'in depth' conversation with any of my non-writing nearest & dearest about 'what I do' - the process or the passion I often feel about it.

The exceptions would be my youngest son - he is a craftsman & 'gets' that when I write I feel real. But it's still generalised. And my best friend will always listen if I feel the need to explode with excitement about something. For the rest, it's polite nodding & relief when the phone rings or the doorbell goes.

bogwitch64
Jan. 20th, 2013 03:42 pm (UTC)
I do have my son-in-law, with whom I can talk books and writing and all things fantasy. We tend to have opposing views on a whole lot of stuff, but that just makes the conversation more interesting.

"The outside world, while benignly impressed & even secretly envious, simply doesn't get it. "
Go here --> http://bogwitch64.livejournal.com/312742.html for a GOOD experience about this. I think you'll like it.
readthisandweep
Jan. 21st, 2013 08:25 am (UTC)
Yes. ;) Most apt.

I once opened my Christmas present from my son & discovered he had chosen the exact same book I'd sent him.
msstacy13
Jan. 19th, 2013 01:28 pm (UTC)
Trust me on this one-
it's much worse when the people surrounding you
not only don't care, but don't love you, either.
Sorry to sound like such a whiner.
bogwitch64
Jan. 20th, 2013 03:58 am (UTC)
I am certain that is much, much worse. :( (((Stacy)))
j_cheney
Jan. 19th, 2013 01:44 pm (UTC)
Yeah...a lot of people jsut don't 'get' what we do...or what we care about...or what we like...

Have a great weekend, too!
bogwitch64
Jan. 20th, 2013 04:00 am (UTC)
They don't get what we do or what we care about, and have no idea why WE would to begin with! :)
I have one friend who is fond of telling me he'd rather stick needles in his eyes than read. He can't fathom spending time reading, let alone writing.
endlessrarities
Jan. 19th, 2013 02:19 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I have that problem with my dad...
bogwitch64
Jan. 20th, 2013 04:00 am (UTC)
Dad, mom, brothers, sisters, kids...the whole lot! Thank goodness for LJ!
writerdoc
Jan. 19th, 2013 03:28 pm (UTC)
THIS!

I have the same problem with my hubby and my entire family when it comes to my writing. They are supportive of me though, so that's what counts. :)
bogwitch64
Jan. 20th, 2013 04:01 am (UTC)
Yes, they are all very supportive, and proud! They just don't get it beyond that. Hey, there are worse things, huh?
writerdoc
Jan. 20th, 2013 07:20 pm (UTC)
Very true!
musingaloud
Jan. 19th, 2013 03:34 pm (UTC)
Yea this is exactly what LJ is for!
bogwitch64
Jan. 20th, 2013 04:01 am (UTC)
Exactly! And I am grateful as grateful can beeeeee! :)
jakobdrud
Jan. 19th, 2013 04:37 pm (UTC)
The world is full of weird interests, and it's a great thing that we can share ours on the web without having to force them on our relatives. (And, let's face it, otherwise we'd all end up dealing with a relative whose only interest is bottled ships.)
asakiyume
Jan. 19th, 2013 10:31 pm (UTC)
Yes, the Internet is *perfect* for letting us all find people who share our idiosyncratic interests.
bogwitch64
Jan. 20th, 2013 04:02 am (UTC)
Hey, I have to admit that when my husband starts talking accounting, I start hearing caliope music in my head. My eyes might even glaze over. :)
readthisandweep
Jan. 20th, 2013 09:43 am (UTC)
Is your husband really an accountant? I pulled that example out of my head. Spooky! And funny - let's face it. :)
bogwitch64
Jan. 20th, 2013 03:36 pm (UTC)
Ah, none of the coincidences between us is spooky anymore. They just happen to often!

Yup, an accountant. He's actually CFO for a group of health clubs in the NY/CT area, so--superaccountant!
maryjdal
Jan. 19th, 2013 08:08 pm (UTC)
Yes, so true. I would feel completely isolated in this if it wasn't for LJ and my writing group.

Happy Weekend :)
bogwitch64
Jan. 20th, 2013 04:03 am (UTC)
I am so grateful to LJ for providing me with all of YOU! It's why I keep sticking around despite LJ's problems. It gave me so much--I can put up with some frustration.
asakiyume
Jan. 19th, 2013 10:32 pm (UTC)
I'm lucky that my daughters *are* interested, and they talk about their projects and struggles too. My husband, though, has only limited time and tolerance for listening to me rabbit on....
bogwitch64
Jan. 20th, 2013 04:04 am (UTC)
You know who I DO have?? My son-in-law. He and I have very similar interests in writing and reading. The differences come in that he's a gamer that leans harder on the scifi, and I'm a fantasy geek who's never played anything outside of Pokemon Snap. :)
writerjenn
Jan. 20th, 2013 12:49 am (UTC)
Wow! You just explained why I spend so much time on the internet.

I wouldn't say my IRL friends and family have "no interest." We share other interests--my husband and I love to hike together, watch certain movies. We have the same sense of humor, the same politics, overlapping though not identical tastes in music, similar views on many things.

But he doesn't read YA lit (or essays, memoirs, contemp adult novels, or general nonfiction, all of which I also read). And I read almost no science fiction. So, book-wise, we don't have a common interest.

I have shared interests with many IRL friends (science, politics, nature, etc.), but even my IRL writer friends mostly don't write YA, and so social media fill a certain need in that department.
bogwitch64
Jan. 20th, 2013 04:06 am (UTC)
To be fair, my husband reads and loves everything I write. Because he's enjoyed MY books, it has opened him up to other fantasy authors. My IRL friends--yeah, they ALL bought my books, for which I am truly grateful, but I think maybe two out of the twenty or so actually READ it.
nineteen68
Jan. 20th, 2013 06:20 pm (UTC)
Way to go on the revision progress! ~:*~:~*~:~*

As far as people being supportive, but not "getting it", I think it might be the difference between people who create things, and people who don't. People who don't make things themselves, may certainly love you & support you & want you to succeed, but what they perceive & understand is mostly the end result, the fact that the book, or whatever the work is, now exists--not the process that goes into creating it.
bogwitch64
Jan. 22nd, 2013 08:15 pm (UTC)
True, to an extent. I feel bad for my honey, because he is in this household with all these super-creative people and he hasn't a single creative cell in his body. He's an accountant among artists--and the reason why I strive to listen and respond when he talks about that kind of thing, even if inside my soul is cringing. :)
spookysqueak
Jan. 22nd, 2013 07:59 pm (UTC)
I remember that feeling from when I was 12, trying to explain, AGAIN, why Lord of the Rings was actually pretty good to my parents. (Flash forward a decade and all of a sudden my intimate knowledge of Middle-earth is valuable when the movies came out.)

Luckily I married a woman who shares many nerd-lusts and, even when she doesn't, is polite enough to listen with only slightly feigned interest.
bogwitch64
Jan. 22nd, 2013 08:14 pm (UTC)
You have brought more of Jamie's inate nerdyness out in her than she's let show before. It warms my nerdwoman heart.

...and I hope you noticed above (and on FB,) how many times I cited YOU as the only one who gets me.
jennygordon
Jan. 23rd, 2013 11:34 am (UTC)
I'm fortunate enough to have a few friends at work, and one in particular, who read in similar areas to me. We regularly swap recommendations and chat books. It's such a gift. Thank goodness for the internet, huh? At least you can chat to fellow writers and readers here.

Still, to have a family and friends who love you and support you is a gift too ...
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